Six Smart Women Discussing Doctor Who

VerityEpisode97It’s another LIVE edition of Verity! Join Erika and Lynne, live from Chicago TARDIS, as we cover “Heaven Sent”, Doctor Who’s very first one-man-show! We watched it a the con, which made it even more special.

What did you think of Capaldi’s very-nearly-solo effort? Let us know in the comments!

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Comments on: "Ep 97 – Stairway to Heaven Sent" (15)

  1. This episode is, quite frankly, perfect Doctor Who for me: a perfect blend of dread and jump scares, a puzzle to solve, and timey travel goodness! I think the Veil is the creepiest villain in a long time, and I *love* the Grimm reference! A hell of a bird indeed!

  2. Marc Kugel said:

    Glad I got the chance to be in the audience and meet Erika and Lynn at Chicago TARDIS. I love this episode. It rips my heart out to think of the Doctor living 2 billion years and to him, every single day is the first day Clara is gone. Can’t wait for next week.

  3. nikkifinn said:

    It’s been almost a week and i’m still not over this – soo brilliant. But is it just me or did anyone else think the wee garden with the grave looked not so much like Missy’s/the one from Girl Who Waited but like the one from The Keys of Marinus???

    And was there a first iteration of the Doctor who came up with the idea that dry, warm clothes after that splash would be lovely, and so put his before the fire and ran around for the rest of his part in nothing but his Questionmark pants?

    (i’ve been listening to Verity since the second ep, but since this is my first time commenting: Thank you so much for this fantastic podcast – it has become such a dear part of my life and i can’t tell you how grateful i am for all the work and effort you put into this!)

    • Deborah Stanish said:

      Thank you so much for your lovely comment about the podcast. It is still a thrill to hear that people enjoy what we do. ❤

  4. Just a couple things – the Doctor is probably only a few days older, and there are many times more than 2 billion skulls.
    1) He resets himself with each iteration, the time is not added together.
    2) However long it takes him to figure out what is going on and reach room 12 – that’s when he dies. It’s probably a lot quicker than a year. If it’s a few days, then multiply the billions of years by a hundred to get his skull count

    Also – I’m assuming with “I came the long way round” – it implies that Confession Disks eventually always make their way back to Gallifrey.

  5. Lovely live podcast! 🙂

    I’ve seen one or two grumblers, but I think the general response to Heaven Sent has been the correct one – that it’s one of the best episodes of Who we’ve seen!

    No matter how good next week’s turns out to be, I reckon this has been the best series since the show came back. Moffat could be forgiven for running out of steam at this point, but he seems to have found his second wind instead! 🙂

  6. I suspect Erika is being generous in applying any logic to what gets reset. The reset idea has to be introduced because he’s not going to refill the pit or fix the window. But the portrait gets older, the ashes cover the floor, the skulls pile up and, of course, the wall wears down.

    Do the ashes need to reach a certain level before he can first write ‘Bird’? In any case, the first time around, he wouldn’t have that clue. Either he works out what to do without the ‘Bird’ prompt in which case why does he need it in the later loops? Or he does loops at the beginning without working out the punching plan in which case would he really put himself through the torture of crawling up the tower?

    Anyway, endless debating points is the mark of a great episode. I haven’t been as sold on Series 9 as the Verities but it was worth the wait for this classic. I’ve even found myself watching some YouTube reaction clips where you really see the master manipulation of emotions near the end; tears when Clara appears, involuntary laughter when he first punches the wall and the big build up deflates, bafflement that he appears to have lost when the Veil gets him and then the slow dawn of understanding during the loops. A hell of a bird and a hell of an episode.

    • >Either he works out what to do without the ‘Bird’ prompt in which case why does he need it in the later loops

      The point is that the loop gets tighter and tighter every time he goes through it. The first time we see him is already many iterations in, and he’s made a lot of progress in figuring out how to manipulate the castle. The actual first few times he may have spent years hanging around (Moffat has said that the Doctor himself painted the portrait of Clara).

      He leaves clues for himself so he doesn’t have to figure it all out from scratch the next time.

  7. MJ Fouldes said:

    Great podcast! I listened on my dog walk today. It worked well with an audience. I knew it would be a good one as the episode you talked about was DAMN well perfect! Oh my gosh! Capaldi was amazing. The acting and story was breathtaking. Yes I really loved his amazing speech in the Zygon story, but the performance in this was 1000000000 (etc) greater! I think my excitement at the end when he ended up “where he did” went as high as 1000 Empire State Buildings!

    I’m quite annoyed that I’m out tonight at a party as I won’t be able to watch the finale live!!!!!

  8. Chuck C said:

    Regarding locations, I am almost certain that the really nice-looking rooms were shot at Cardiff Castle. I was there about 5 years ago and that was what immediately came to mind.

    And too bad you couldn’t get to Caerphilly Castle, Erica, it’s a good one.

  9. Paul A. said:

    My thought about the different-coloured button on the Doctor’s jacket was that it’s there to underline the fact that the jacket he finds by the fire is his jacket and not just a jacket of the same style.

  10. Good to see someone pointing out that the Doctor is reset back to his starting state every time he “re-starts the level” – especially relevant to the discussion about the amount of built-up anger the Doctor must have to punch through that wall, as every time he starts afresh he’s back to the raw original emotion of loss that he was experiencing.

    Interesting to see you bring up the theory of Leela being the Doctor’s mother, as I believe that dates back at least to the 7th Doctor novel ‘Lungbarrow’ (1997) (or possibly earlier). Two hours until I get to watch the finale!

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