Six Smart Women Discussing Doctor Who

Happy 200th numbered episode! Join Deb, Erika, and Tansy as we cover why this really isn’t our 200th podcast and why we decided to “celebrate” by covering a seemingly-random season 10 episode!

What do you think about “Frontier in Space”? Are you a big Jo fan? Love the Master? Have thoughts on the Doctor’s hair? Let us know in the comments!


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Comments on: "200 – Frontier in Space Jam" (5)

  1. I love Frontier in Space! It’s probably the best example of ‘space opera’ from classic Who (or even new Who, for that matter) and all of the captures and escapes are great fun. It’s a great pity that the Draconians never reappeared. Maybe Chibnall will finally bring them back?

    Come to think of it, maybe the new show could devote an episode to the resolution of the Draconian and human conflict? Then we could finally patch that hole. I kind of like Planet of the Daleks, but it’s very much a case of Terry Nation on Dalek auto-pilot and as you mentioned, it in no way delivers on the magnificent set-up that it got from Frontier. Ah, if only Malcolm Hulke had written it too, then things might have been very different. Actually, the idea of a Huke-written Dalek story is a very tantalising one indeed. Maybe in some alternative universe…

    One thought occurred to me when you were talking about the idea of the Doctor just taking over a situation in the new show and having everyone trust him immediately – I suspect part of that is down to the fact that they only have 45 minutes to tell a story, instead of 6 25 minute episodes. Like the psychic paper, I think it just helps to move the story along. Still, it would be nice to see a new Who episode where the Doctor is locked up for the bulk of it and the companions have to do the heavy lifting!

  2. Chris said:

    Great story and great review. I’m enjoying this voyage of 7s that you are taking on, even with this detour.

    Some things that I noticed as well:
    Draconian costumes were spot on. They can definitely hold them own today.

    I also loved the Master’s entrance and the Daleks intro too.

    So many jails!

    I didn’t realize this was the last Delgado story. Imagine what could have been if he kept going. RIP.

    Thanks for your podcast!

  3. Squibby said:

    Like Paul Mundie above, this is one of my favourite DW space operas.

    Tansy, you mentioned there were plans for a 12 episode story. I wonder if Malcolm Hulke had started an outline for that and this is the abridged version. It seems like they tried to fit a whole episode’s plot into the last 5 minutes.
    I agree about this influencing the production of Blakes 7 but also Star Wars A New Hope which hired a lot of British TV and film effects artists, costumers, set builders, actors, etc.

    Erica, JMS is a Doctor Who fan. A lomg running joke in my home is Kosh 1 is the Doctor and Kosh 2 is the Master.
    Malcolm Hulke and JMS both like post-WW2 written SF and I see a lot of Asimov in both stories.
    Also, that frilly shirt and hair was 1972 high fashion. Just google the 1972 Academy Awards and see what the men in their flaired tuxes, long hair and frilly shirts looked like. Its no different from David Tennant’s trendy-noughties-shoes.

    Deb, this was broadcast less than a year after President Nixon went to China. Its a fascinating culture clash story. I see more references to the Draconians and the Japanese/Western misunderstandings prior to WW2

  4. Squibby said:

    P.S. Terry Nation had such a firm hold on the daleks creatively, that at the time he wouldn’t have allowed Malcolm Hulke to have written the following story. Because he allowed no one else to write a full dalek story at that time.

    Rather a shame as I would have loved to see a nuanced political thriller with daleks and the Master.
    And the just maybe Roger Delgardo would have a reason to not be in that car….

  5. I love FiS so much, for all the reasons you folks mentioned: The character scenes in jail cells, the Master being at the top of his game, Jo being clever and capable, but the Master being just that vital bet cleverer: the political discussions; the music…

    This was a story I really got know on audio, a few years after it aired, and it’s always been a favourite. But I have had much less exposure “Terror of the Autons”, so hadn’t realised until now how neatly it mirrors Jo’s first encounter with the Master, and shows her growth over the three years. Nice! Thanks for that. =:o}

    This Dudley Simpson’s first go at scoring Space Opera in the era of the synthesizer. That hollow, eerie sound he uzes to represent space appears again in his theme for the Letts/Dicks series “Moonbase 3”, and again in “The Ark in Space”, but only rarely in Blake’s Seven… But the rhythmic doubled horn parts, first heard here, became a regular feature of Dudley’s scores throughout the late 70s, especially in B7.

    Picking up Squibby’s point: JMS is on record that he lifted the cause of the Human/Minbari war straight from FiS. =:o}

    Lovely review, thanks again.

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