Six Smart Women Discussing Doctor Who

This week we have the seventh story from the seventh year of the only Doctor to stick around that long. Join Deb, Erika, Lynne, and Tansy as we talk over the 4th Doctor’s exit.

How do you feel about “Logopolis”? Is it a touching exit? A bunch of nonsense? A boring slog with just a few moments of joy? Let us know in the comments!


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Comments on: "205 – Yule Logopolis" (6)

  1. I am one of those people that came into classic Who through new Who. I immediately took to Tegan off that bat. I don’t know if it is because I’m from Texas or what, but her reactions to the world around her was always warranted to me personally, or I just didn’t feel the need to raise an eyebrow at her behavior. And Tegan was the companion the 5th Doctor needed…at least that is how I feel personally.

  2. After all this time I still expect to hear Lynne say “DeKalb”. But I have come up with a handy mnemonic: “Teglynne Urbanka”

  3. Eric P Gjovaag said:

    Tansy, you are so fortunate that Liz wasn’t on this one. She would have been all over your comment with variously pitched “How dare you!”s regarding your comment about not having seen a TARDIS materialize inside another one before. It happened back in 1972, again the Doctor’s inside the Master’s (and vice versa) in “The Time Monster”!

    • Squibby said:

      I agree completely about The Time Monster. I find it funny that the ‘timey whimey’ time travel mischeviousness in ‘new Who’, using tea as a part of a device, the Doctor and Master misbehaving at school – all from the Time Monster.

      To me, Logopolos was the 3rd Doctor regeneration we didn’t get after Roger Delgado died.

      There are also so many similarities between the 3rd to 4th and 4th to 5th regenerations.

      – A wise mystical helper – the Abbott and the Keeper

      – A transformative character – Cho Je and the Watcher

      – An independent woman who has an eccentric Aunt, a convertable car, an attitude and ises knowledge from her job – Sarah Jane and Tegan

      – A villain who possesses bodies/people and uses mind control – Spiders and Master

  4. Vila42 said:

    First off… Big hug aimed in Tansy’s direction from Northern California for mentioning about the writer’s guide for Big Finish. I just downloaded it and it’s amazing! I’ve been trying to figure out how to submit a story I’ve been working on to Big Finish (although very non-Bernice Summerfield related) most of the info is just what I was looking for (but didn’t know where to look.) Best of luck with your submission! I hope they pick your’s.

    As to Deb’s question on how the listeners reacted to this story. Well, there’s a few reasons that I didn’t have the same reaction that Erika did (although I can empathize with 5 year old Erika… If I had seen this story at that age I don’t have any doubt that I would have been similarly distressed.) However, 1) I was about 16 and my friend at school who introduced my to the show had already explained about regeneration and the nature of this particular regeneration made it less of a shock. 2) I had already taken quite the liking to Adric (and I liked the fact that Nyssa was joining the Tardis team) so that knowledge also helped ease the transition. 3) The last reason, though, was not one I could not have predicted. The next week, when I tuned in expecting to see Castrovalva, I wound up seeing Robot (this was fine, since I hadn’t found the show until after it aired.) I didn’t have the sudden jolt of no more 4th Doctor, I still had several months to adjust to the change (plus having Full Circle through Logopolis to look forward to again before I actually got to see Castrovalva or any other 5th Doctor stories. The way my PBS station showed Doctor Who was rather jumbled. I think it was 2 airings of the 4th Doctor, then 5-7, and then I think they went back and showed 1-3 ( I think… don’t quote me on that… Jason Snell might actually know better since he watched the show on the same PBS station I did… I didn’t know that at that time, I only just found that out about a year ago.)

  5. I must say, I’m a bit baffled to discover that Logopolis is so highly regarded by old school fans. What’s to like, unless you’re crazy about maths? Apart from the introduction of Tegan and the impending regeneration, there’s really not much else to hold these four episodes together. I’m sure Chris Bidmead thinks it’s all very clever, but I’m afraid I just think it’s dull.

    I saw it on first broadcast back in 1981 when I was 11 years old, and it bored me to tears then. I’m afraid it hasn’t grown much in my estimations since. Tom Baker definitely deserved a better send-off, but his final story seems in keeping with his final season as a whole – a bit boring and glum.

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