Six Smart Women Discussing Doctor Who

We kick of our as-yet-unnamed 2022 theme with a look at Sea Devils! Join Deb, Erika, Lynne, and Tansy as we discuss this Fifth Doctor “workplace tragedy” and the Doctor’s general history with the Sea Devils and their cousins the Silurans. 

How do you feel about “Warriors of the Deep”? Does your “cringe memory” make you hate it? Or do you think it’s just fine? Love the Myrka? Hate the lighting? Drop us a tweet or let us know in the comments!

And if you have ideas for deep-dive topics for this year, pop a comment on the post for our 2022 theme announcement!


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Comments on: "Warriors of the Deep Dive" (6)

  1. scooter27 said:

    This was fun! I was around 18 when this came out, watched it on PBS. I always thought it was underrated, and blaming the Murrka for ‘ruining’ the story a huge copout. Of course nothing looks like it’s from a movie with a $100 million dollar budget, that’s why we have imaginations!! LOL! This was a time when Japanese style and parts of its culture where getting big in the mainstream, so the redesign was cool! In this new story I want to see if a large group of Sea Devils migrated to Asian waters, and their descendants are in Warriors of the Deep.

  2. thebutler said:

    Thanks for that! I’ve watched it again. And it may not be one of my personal classics, bur … It’s kinda amazing in its own right.

    You mentioned War Games. I think the writer may also have taken a cue from Ender’s Game. I’ve since read that book, and seen the movie with Asa Buterfield as Ender and it’s pretty obvious.

    The sets are wonderful and it really does feel like a work place, with all the characters going about their work routines.

    The part where the Doctor distances himself from the humans is chilling!

    I needed that! Thanks!

  3. Joe Cleveland said:

    I hope being a still relatively new fan will keep me from losing cred when I admit my only experience with Sea Devils is from the Alternating Current comic with the 13th & 10th Doctors! I’ve started watching classic Who on BritBox a few months ago, and I really appreciate you all helping us newbies with the history and connections we’d otherwise miss!

    • Deborah Stanish said:

      There is absolutely not cred to be lost! In fact, by reading the comics you may actually have MORE cred. Seriously, though – gatekeeping of any kind is crap and everyone has the right to choose the bits of the media that they enjoy without feeing guilty about the stuff they aren’t consuming. Anything beyond that is sprinkles on the delicious Fan Sundae!

  4. Icon_UK said:

    I don’t think the Myrkka was helped for UK viewers of the target demographic, by the fact that the two performers in the suit were already well known for playing Dobbin, a supernaturally animated pantomime horse, on kids show “Rentaghost”

    It shouldn’t have been quite as memorable an acting “style” for two people walking around in synch, btu i swear that it was.

    That and the fact that the Doctor has perhaps the worst “Chekov’s gun” moment in the series history when he notes early in part one “Hexachromite gas … It’s lethal to marine and reptile life.”

    That seems an overly-convenient, overly-specific lethality in a story where we already knew from the adverts and DWM that the Sea Devils and Silurians were going to be appearing.

    Still, thank you for the reminder that it’s a story I actually haven’t watched in a very, very long time so is probably worth a rewatch at some point.

  5. Time is kind to these things, but I was 14 in 1984 (the first episode aired on my 14th birthday!) and when you’re that age, you want the things you like to be taken VERY seriously, and Doctor Who had been getting sillier and sillier since its Golden Era (for me, anyway) – the early 70s.The programme used to be SCARY. Now it was – shiny. Basically, if you admitted to being a Who fan in public at that time in a school playground, you were asking for mockery at best, and a beating at worst. Now I’m 52, I care less about such things!

    I don’t remember being bothered by the Myrka in general at the time, but I DO remember feeling actual embarrassment when Ingrid Pitt cut loose with her martial arts moves. That moment is indicative of the main problem with the story, I think – director Pennant Roberts either lacked the ability to block action well, or wasn’t sufficiently invested in this story to give it 100%. On paper, there’s nothing wrong with this story. If this had been directed by Graeme Harper it would probably be hailed as a classic!

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